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Poster: cashel Date: Jun 24, 2004 5:36am
Forum: opensource_movies Subject: why are there so many different movie formats??

I like DivX for its image quality but find that most of its films do not run in win media player(which I prefer for ease of navigation). I dislike Quick Time intensely(I cannot edit in win movie maker. ,etc). Real Player is useless when I wish to give a movie to friends as they usually do not have it or want it.I do not have any information on Cinepack. And there are files labelled"unknown" which have me completely baffled.

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Poster: datasuspect Date: Jun 26, 2004 12:40pm
Forum: opensource_movies Subject: Re: why are there so many different movie formats??

vlc player (www.videolan.org) is really good player, it's the one i use when windows media player craps out

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Poster: FP Date: Jun 24, 2004 8:05am
Forum: opensource_movies Subject: Re: why are there so many different movie formats??

If you're on the PC, many codec compatibility problems can be eliminated by the installation of the free K-Lite codec pack, here:
http://www.k-litecodecpack.com/

This includes both REAL ALTERNATIVE and QUICKTIME ALTERNATIVE, which install the Real and Quicktime codecs and an old version of Media Player that will play only these formats. More mainstream formats continue to play with the newer Media Player.

I find the best-looking uploads with the least compatibility issues are MPEG 1, 320X240 or larger. The files aren't the smallest, but they look pretty good, and almost any PC or Mac of any vintage can play them.

This post was modified by FP on 2004-06-24 15:04:02

This post was modified by FP on 2004-06-24 15:05:44

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Poster: cashel Date: Jun 24, 2004 1:14pm
Forum: opensource_movies Subject: Re: why are there so many different movie formats??

thank you to everyone. This is livung proof of the the usefillness of the FORUMS

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Poster: tambora Date: Jun 24, 2004 6:43pm
Forum: opensource_movies Subject: Re: why are there so many different movie formats??

If you visit download.com and search for "codec" or "codec packs" or something like that, you can probably find all the free DivX codecs to make DivX play in Windows Media Player. All you have to do is install them. And if this doesn't work, simply visit DivX.com and download their free player. It has plenty of codecs, too, but the downside is that it is yet another player to deal with.

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Poster: aka it chic Date: Jun 24, 2004 7:11pm
Forum: opensource_movies Subject: Re: why are there so many different movie formats??

http://www.free-codecs.com/ is a great site for codecs and players. http://suprnova.org/ (a bit torrent site) also gives really good information regarding the topic (search under forums). Unfortunately, there are so many types (and still not a ‘standard’) it causes problems and will continue to cause problems for the ones that are later not supported. The IEEE has started tackling this issue.

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Staffakb Date: Jun 24, 2004 6:41am
Forum: opensource_movies Subject: Re: why are there so many different movie formats??

Greed. Companies think the "real money" on the 'net will be made through video content, thus if a company can be THE format it can collect a toll on every transaction. Thus, the players are willing to make video on 'net a nightmare for users and content deliverers in their attempt to corner the market. They have all done a poor job in my opionion.

This of course stands in stark contrast to the 'net you and I both love, with open standards and multiple independent implementations. I think its important to point out the importance of formats here, it will be an issue for the Archive. In 5 or 10 years, how many of the formats that have been uploaded will be obsolete.

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Staffsimon c Date: Jun 24, 2004 8:06am
Forum: opensource_movies Subject: Re: why are there so many different movie formats??

Yep, this subject worries me, too. We've done the first step, which is to actually archive the movies, but I'm sure some of the more exotic DivX variants may be difficult to play in a few years.

The (theoretical) plan is to make derivations into standard forms that we can then keep deriving from - we may have a handle on a Linux video expert who may have time to help us with our Perl/Linux deriver and this mess of formats, but other help is always welcome.

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Staffakb Date: Jun 30, 2004 9:13am
Forum: opensource_movies Subject: Re: why are there so many different movie formats??

Did you figure out the perl/linux deriver? I came across a script (mencvcd) today that integrates mplayer with mjpegtools in order to produce vcds, it could very easily be modified to produce mpeg2 files from any source that mplayer plays (virtually anything). From there your existing scripts could convert to mpeg4 and whatever else you might want.

The hard part is figuring out the correct frame size when you upconvert but that should be doable.

I said I'd help with this a while back and got distracted by the war, I feel kinda bad.